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New additions are news on the ELCA and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi thinking she speaks for the Roman Catholic church.
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Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Monday, August 24, 2009
The ELCA turns its back on Christ, Luther
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America told the world Friday on where it stands on homosexuality and adding another denomination to its list of communing churches at its convention in Minneapolis.
The ELCA voters chose to align itself with the United Methodist Church in full communion. That is not shocking. The ELCA has already forgotten on what it preaches and what the Book of Concord says on Holy Communion. Lutherans believe that the bread and the wine used in Holy Communion are the true Body and Blood of Christ. The UMC sees it as only as symbolic. But who's really counting. Now, I have nothing against the UMC, I like this denomination far more than the rest the ELCA is in with. The others are: the Episcopal Church, the Moravian Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Reformed Church in America and the United Church of Christ. In my opinion, the UCC is not a Christian Church, but who really cares these days. I see the UCC as a secular entity.
The big news from the week was when the ELCA voters approved gays and lesbians in committed relationships can be pastors. The vote passed 559-451. This officially marked the end of the ELCA being identified as Lutheran. Martin Luther said that pastors are to be married to procreate. This is also a major point in the Holy Bible.
The ELCA is now secular. It is no longer practicing Lutheran theology. It has began doing something of its own.
Part of the problem is the ELCA hierarchy. The leaders of the ELCA are liberals. They do not understand the Holy Bible. They do not even take any attempt to glance at the Book of Concord.
I know it is nice to be "all inclusive" but not to the extent of destroying your theology. The theology that Luther preached has nothing in common with what the ELCA is now preaching.
Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson thinks and acts as if he is the "Lutheran pope" when Luther was against anyone who even resembled the Roman pope. Hanson is in charge of the Lutheran World Federation, which includes the state churches of Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland, among others. This is not what Luther wanted.
Luther was not liberal when it came to theology. He was a conservative. That is why the Reformation happened. Who were the liberals of his time? The Roman Catholic Church. The pope was making up theology from whatever he felt would help out his cause. Just look at the indulgences.
Officially today, when looking at theology, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod is the largest Lutheran church body in the United States, and possibly the world. I say the world, because in Europe the Lutheran Christians aren't exactly weekly church-goers. All they have to do is pay their state church taxes.
Lutherans are to adhere to the Holy Bible and the Book of Concord. The ELCA is not.
What else happened in Minneapolis this week? A tornado stuck downtown and hit the Central Lutheran Church (ELCA) steeple which was across the street from the convention. An odd coincidence?
IN THE NEWS:
Washington Times
ELCA Release
The ELCA voters chose to align itself with the United Methodist Church in full communion. That is not shocking. The ELCA has already forgotten on what it preaches and what the Book of Concord says on Holy Communion. Lutherans believe that the bread and the wine used in Holy Communion are the true Body and Blood of Christ. The UMC sees it as only as symbolic. But who's really counting. Now, I have nothing against the UMC, I like this denomination far more than the rest the ELCA is in with. The others are: the Episcopal Church, the Moravian Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Reformed Church in America and the United Church of Christ. In my opinion, the UCC is not a Christian Church, but who really cares these days. I see the UCC as a secular entity.
The big news from the week was when the ELCA voters approved gays and lesbians in committed relationships can be pastors. The vote passed 559-451. This officially marked the end of the ELCA being identified as Lutheran. Martin Luther said that pastors are to be married to procreate. This is also a major point in the Holy Bible.
The ELCA is now secular. It is no longer practicing Lutheran theology. It has began doing something of its own.
Part of the problem is the ELCA hierarchy. The leaders of the ELCA are liberals. They do not understand the Holy Bible. They do not even take any attempt to glance at the Book of Concord.
I know it is nice to be "all inclusive" but not to the extent of destroying your theology. The theology that Luther preached has nothing in common with what the ELCA is now preaching.
Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson thinks and acts as if he is the "Lutheran pope" when Luther was against anyone who even resembled the Roman pope. Hanson is in charge of the Lutheran World Federation, which includes the state churches of Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland, among others. This is not what Luther wanted.
Luther was not liberal when it came to theology. He was a conservative. That is why the Reformation happened. Who were the liberals of his time? The Roman Catholic Church. The pope was making up theology from whatever he felt would help out his cause. Just look at the indulgences.
Officially today, when looking at theology, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod is the largest Lutheran church body in the United States, and possibly the world. I say the world, because in Europe the Lutheran Christians aren't exactly weekly church-goers. All they have to do is pay their state church taxes.
Lutherans are to adhere to the Holy Bible and the Book of Concord. The ELCA is not.
What else happened in Minneapolis this week? A tornado stuck downtown and hit the Central Lutheran Church (ELCA) steeple which was across the street from the convention. An odd coincidence?
IN THE NEWS:
Washington Times
ELCA Release
Wednesday, June 3, 2009
Friday, October 31, 2008
Happy Reformation Day!
Today was the day when Martin Luther changed history. Luther did not plan to separate from the Roman Catholic Church, but plans sometimes change when there is a bounty for your head. Religious freedom and the ability to read the Holy Bible came from Martin Luther. And what most Christians call their favorite hymn came from this era and it was written by Martin Luther.
A Mighty Fortress Is Our God
1. A mighty Fortress is our God,
A trusty Shield and Weapon;
He helps us free from every need
That hath us now o'ertaken.
The old evil Foe
Now means deadly woe;
Deep guile and great might
Are his dread arms in fight;
On Earth is not his equal.
2. With might of ours can naught be done,
Soon were our loss effected;
But for us fights the Valiant One,
Whom God Himself elected.
Ask ye, Who is this?
Jesus Christ it is.
Of Sabaoth Lord,
And there's none other God;
He holds the field forever.
3. Though devils all the world should fill,
All eager to devour us.
We tremble not, we fear no ill,
They shall not overpower us.
This world's prince may still
Scowl fierce as he will,
He can harm us none,
He's judged; the deed is done;
One little word can fell him.
4. The Word they still shall let remain
Nor any thanks have for it;
He's by our side upon the plain
With His good gifts and Spirit.
And take they our life,
Goods, fame, child and wife,
Let these all be gone,
They yet have nothing won;
The Kingdom our remaineth.
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Biden, Pelosi told not to take communion
Vice Presidential hopeful Joe Biden and Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi have been told by the Washington and Denver archbishops to not take communion because of their statements and record regarding their belief in Catholicism, particularly on abortion and on when life actually begins.
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Archbishop of Washington Chides Pelosi; Dencer Archbishop Warns Biden to Skip Communion
Fox News
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
By Bill Sammon
Irked by pro-choice Democrats who tout their Catholicism, the archbishop of Washington is chiding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for misstating church history and the archbishop of Denver is warning vice presidential hopeful Joe Biden not to take Communion.
The unusual public rebukes come as both Pelosi and Biden are talking up their faith in a bid for swing voters as Democrats stage their national convention in Denver. In an interview Sunday, Pelosi claimed to be an expert on the church’s abortion stance.
“As an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time,” Pelosi told NBC’s Tom Brokaw, who had asked her when life begins. “And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know.”
When Brokaw pointed out that the Catholic church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception, Pelosi said: “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy.”
In an interview with FOX News on Tuesday, Archbishop Donald Wuerl said people need to reflect more before they start talking about church doctrine. He also issued a statement calling Pelosi’s explanation of the church’s abortion stance “incorrect.”
“The current teaching of the Catholic Church on human life and abortion is the same teaching as it was 2,000 years ago,” Wuerl noted. “From the beginning, the Catholic Church has respected the dignity of all human life from the moment of conception to natural death.”
Wuerl cited a passage from the church’s catechism that condemns abortion as “gravely contrary to moral law.”
“Since the first century the church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion,” the catechism states. “This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”
In an afternoon response, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said that as mother of five, the speaker appreciates the “sanctity of family.”
“While Catholic teaching is clear that life begins at conception, many Catholics do not ascribe to that view. The speaker agrees with the Church that we should reduce the number of abortions. She believes that can be done by making family planning more available, as well as by increasing the number of comprehensive age-appropriate sex education and caring adoption programs. The speaker has a long, proud record of working with the Catholic Church on many issues, including alleviating poverty and promoting social justice and peace,” said spokesman Brendan Daly.
Biden too has disagreed with the catechism, as evidenced by a 2006 interview he gave to C-SPAN, which asked him about abortion.
“That debate in our church has not morphed, but changed over a thousand years,” Biden said. “It always is viewed by the church as something that is wrong, but there’s been gradations of whether it was wrong. You know, from venial or mortal sin, as we Catholics say, and versions of it.”
But Biden added that since Pope Pius IX’s reign (1846-1878), “it’s been pretty clear that’s been automatic — moment of conception.”
Over the weekend, Biden’s pro-choice views raised the ire of Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput.
“I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for communion, if he supports a false ‘right’ to abortion,” Chaput told The Associated Press.
As for Pelosi, Chaput called her “a gifted public servant of strong convictions and many professional skills. Regrettably, knowledge of Catholic history and teaching does not seem to be one of them.”
Chaput added that abortion “is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it.”
During that 2004 presidential campaign, Chaput and a dozen other bishops called on Democratic nominee John Kerry to refrain from taking Communion. The church has also objected to former GOP presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani taking Communion.
“I think some of it is regional,” said Pelosi, whose district encompasses San Francisco, in a recent interview with C-SPAN. “It depends on the bishop of a certain region and, fortunately for me, Communion has not been withheld and I’m a regular Communicant, so that would be a severe blow to me if that were the case.”
On Saturday, when Obama introduced Biden as his running mate, both men made a point of mentioning Biden’s Catholicism. Obama has struggled to win over Catholics, 52 percent of whom voted for President Bush in 2004.
Bill Sammon is Washington Deputy Managing Editor for the FOX News Channel.
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Archbishop of Washington Chides Pelosi; Dencer Archbishop Warns Biden to Skip Communion
Fox News
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
By Bill Sammon
Irked by pro-choice Democrats who tout their Catholicism, the archbishop of Washington is chiding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for misstating church history and the archbishop of Denver is warning vice presidential hopeful Joe Biden not to take Communion.
The unusual public rebukes come as both Pelosi and Biden are talking up their faith in a bid for swing voters as Democrats stage their national convention in Denver. In an interview Sunday, Pelosi claimed to be an expert on the church’s abortion stance.
“As an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time,” Pelosi told NBC’s Tom Brokaw, who had asked her when life begins. “And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know.”
When Brokaw pointed out that the Catholic church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception, Pelosi said: “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy.”
In an interview with FOX News on Tuesday, Archbishop Donald Wuerl said people need to reflect more before they start talking about church doctrine. He also issued a statement calling Pelosi’s explanation of the church’s abortion stance “incorrect.”
“The current teaching of the Catholic Church on human life and abortion is the same teaching as it was 2,000 years ago,” Wuerl noted. “From the beginning, the Catholic Church has respected the dignity of all human life from the moment of conception to natural death.”
Wuerl cited a passage from the church’s catechism that condemns abortion as “gravely contrary to moral law.”
“Since the first century the church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion,” the catechism states. “This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”
In an afternoon response, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said that as mother of five, the speaker appreciates the “sanctity of family.”
“While Catholic teaching is clear that life begins at conception, many Catholics do not ascribe to that view. The speaker agrees with the Church that we should reduce the number of abortions. She believes that can be done by making family planning more available, as well as by increasing the number of comprehensive age-appropriate sex education and caring adoption programs. The speaker has a long, proud record of working with the Catholic Church on many issues, including alleviating poverty and promoting social justice and peace,” said spokesman Brendan Daly.
Biden too has disagreed with the catechism, as evidenced by a 2006 interview he gave to C-SPAN, which asked him about abortion.
“That debate in our church has not morphed, but changed over a thousand years,” Biden said. “It always is viewed by the church as something that is wrong, but there’s been gradations of whether it was wrong. You know, from venial or mortal sin, as we Catholics say, and versions of it.”
But Biden added that since Pope Pius IX’s reign (1846-1878), “it’s been pretty clear that’s been automatic — moment of conception.”
Over the weekend, Biden’s pro-choice views raised the ire of Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput.
“I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for communion, if he supports a false ‘right’ to abortion,” Chaput told The Associated Press.
As for Pelosi, Chaput called her “a gifted public servant of strong convictions and many professional skills. Regrettably, knowledge of Catholic history and teaching does not seem to be one of them.”
Chaput added that abortion “is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it.”
During that 2004 presidential campaign, Chaput and a dozen other bishops called on Democratic nominee John Kerry to refrain from taking Communion. The church has also objected to former GOP presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani taking Communion.
“I think some of it is regional,” said Pelosi, whose district encompasses San Francisco, in a recent interview with C-SPAN. “It depends on the bishop of a certain region and, fortunately for me, Communion has not been withheld and I’m a regular Communicant, so that would be a severe blow to me if that were the case.”
On Saturday, when Obama introduced Biden as his running mate, both men made a point of mentioning Biden’s Catholicism. Obama has struggled to win over Catholics, 52 percent of whom voted for President Bush in 2004.
Bill Sammon is Washington Deputy Managing Editor for the FOX News Channel.
Pelosi Speaks on Behalf of the Catholic Church About When Life Begins
Nancy Pelosi now speaks on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church. She knows when life begins and it's not when a large percentage of Americans believe. She does not believe that a life begins at inception. And she spoke as if she was a Vatican spokesperson on NBC's Meet the Press.
Will the Vatican speak up on this? And, since when does she want to act Catholic? It sure isn't in her voting. By the way, the Catholic Church believes that life begins at inception.
Pelosi on "Meet the Press"
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Nancy Pelosi: Must be Excommunicated from from RCC
by mrdirt, 8/25/08 18:35 ET
(Link to story on website)
On the August 24 “Meet the Press” show on NBC-TV, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) was asked to comment on when life begins. Democrat Pelosi said “I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the Church have not been able to make that definition.”
Responding, moderator Tom Brokaw told her that the Catholic Church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception. Pelosi said, “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the Church, this is an issue of controversy.”
William Donahue of Catholics United for the Faith reponded in a statement “Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: ‘Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.’ It also says, ‘Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.’ Looks like Pelosi didn’t study the subject long enough. But not to worry: We are sending her a copy of Catholicism for Dummies today (the Catechism is like maybe a bit advanced).
“Whether Joe Biden is as ignorant of what his religion teaches remains to be seen. What is not in doubt is the enthusiasm which NARAL showed when he was selected to join the ticket. The radical pro-abortion group was delighted, as were the radical pro-abortion delegates to the Democratic convention: as reported in today’s New York Times, 64 percent of Americans reject abortion-on-demand, yet only 23 percent of the delegates do. It is only fitting, then, that NARAL’s president will speak today at the Convention and Planned Parenthood’s president will speak tomorrow.
“So there we have it: the man running for president on the Democratic ticket supports selective infanticide, his running mate is a pro-abortion Catholic, the delegates are wildly out of step with Americans on abortion and the Speaker of the House hasn’t a clue what her religion teaches on the subject.”
Will the Vatican speak up on this? And, since when does she want to act Catholic? It sure isn't in her voting. By the way, the Catholic Church believes that life begins at inception.
Pelosi on "Meet the Press"
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Nancy Pelosi: Must be Excommunicated from from RCC
by mrdirt, 8/25/08 18:35 ET
(Link to story on website)
On the August 24 “Meet the Press” show on NBC-TV, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) was asked to comment on when life begins. Democrat Pelosi said “I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the Church have not been able to make that definition.”
Responding, moderator Tom Brokaw told her that the Catholic Church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception. Pelosi said, “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the Church, this is an issue of controversy.”
William Donahue of Catholics United for the Faith reponded in a statement “Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: ‘Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.’ It also says, ‘Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.’ Looks like Pelosi didn’t study the subject long enough. But not to worry: We are sending her a copy of Catholicism for Dummies today (the Catechism is like maybe a bit advanced).
“Whether Joe Biden is as ignorant of what his religion teaches remains to be seen. What is not in doubt is the enthusiasm which NARAL showed when he was selected to join the ticket. The radical pro-abortion group was delighted, as were the radical pro-abortion delegates to the Democratic convention: as reported in today’s New York Times, 64 percent of Americans reject abortion-on-demand, yet only 23 percent of the delegates do. It is only fitting, then, that NARAL’s president will speak today at the Convention and Planned Parenthood’s president will speak tomorrow.
“So there we have it: the man running for president on the Democratic ticket supports selective infanticide, his running mate is a pro-abortion Catholic, the delegates are wildly out of step with Americans on abortion and the Speaker of the House hasn’t a clue what her religion teaches on the subject.”
Sunday, August 24, 2008
Obama tries to appeal to Lutherans in Wisconsin
Sen. Barack Obama went to church today. And because he was in Eau Claire, Wisc, of course he wanted to appeal to the largest protestant denomination in the state. Obama went to First Lutheran Church (ELCA) and I have not heard if he took communion. Obama was a member of the liberal United Church of Christ which is in communal membership with the ELCA, but he did leave his church.
One thing for certain is that Obama doesn't follow Lutheran beliefs. Lutherans believe that the bread and wine are the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. The UCC does not believe that.
Below is an article about his visit to Eau Claire:
Obama attends church, barbecue in Wisconsin
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Sun Aug 24, 1:53 PM ET
EAU CLAIRE, Wis. - Barack Obama says this week's Democratic convention will help people realize he and his family share their values.
"You'll conclude, 'He's sort of like us,'" Obama told a group of supporters. "'He comes from a middle class background, went to school on scholarships ... he and his wife had to figure out child care and how to start a college fund for their kids.'"
The presidential hopeful kept a relatively low profile Sunday, attending services at a Lutheran church before visiting a barbecue at a local rod and gun park.
Polls show a tight race in Wisconsin between Obama and Republican rival John McCain.
Campaign aides said the Illinois senator spoke Thursday to former President Clinton and to Hillary Clinton on Friday morning.
OTHER ARTICLES ABOUT HIS VISIT IN EAU CLAIRE:
*Obama practices humility preached to him
LINK TO CHURCH WEBSITE:
First Lutheran Church
One thing for certain is that Obama doesn't follow Lutheran beliefs. Lutherans believe that the bread and wine are the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. The UCC does not believe that.
Below is an article about his visit to Eau Claire:
Obama attends church, barbecue in Wisconsin
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Sun Aug 24, 1:53 PM ET
EAU CLAIRE, Wis. - Barack Obama says this week's Democratic convention will help people realize he and his family share their values.
"You'll conclude, 'He's sort of like us,'" Obama told a group of supporters. "'He comes from a middle class background, went to school on scholarships ... he and his wife had to figure out child care and how to start a college fund for their kids.'"
The presidential hopeful kept a relatively low profile Sunday, attending services at a Lutheran church before visiting a barbecue at a local rod and gun park.
Polls show a tight race in Wisconsin between Obama and Republican rival John McCain.
Campaign aides said the Illinois senator spoke Thursday to former President Clinton and to Hillary Clinton on Friday morning.
OTHER ARTICLES ABOUT HIS VISIT IN EAU CLAIRE:
*Obama practices humility preached to him
LINK TO CHURCH WEBSITE:
First Lutheran Church
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