Friday, October 31, 2008

Happy Reformation Day!

Today was the day when Martin Luther changed history. Luther did not plan to separate from the Roman Catholic Church, but plans sometimes change when there is a bounty for your head. Religious freedom and the ability to read the Holy Bible came from Martin Luther. And what most Christians call their favorite hymn came from this era and it was written by Martin Luther.

A Mighty Fortress Is Our God

1. A mighty Fortress is our God,
A trusty Shield and Weapon;
He helps us free from every need
That hath us now o'ertaken.
The old evil Foe
Now means deadly woe;
Deep guile and great might
Are his dread arms in fight;
On Earth is not his equal.

2. With might of ours can naught be done,
Soon were our loss effected;
But for us fights the Valiant One,
Whom God Himself elected.
Ask ye, Who is this?
Jesus Christ it is.
Of Sabaoth Lord,
And there's none other God;
He holds the field forever.

3. Though devils all the world should fill,
All eager to devour us.
We tremble not, we fear no ill,
They shall not overpower us.
This world's prince may still
Scowl fierce as he will,
He can harm us none,
He's judged; the deed is done;
One little word can fell him.

4. The Word they still shall let remain
Nor any thanks have for it;
He's by our side upon the plain
With His good gifts and Spirit.
And take they our life,
Goods, fame, child and wife,
Let these all be gone,
They yet have nothing won;
The Kingdom our remaineth.

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Biden, Pelosi told not to take communion

Vice Presidential hopeful Joe Biden and Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi have been told by the Washington and Denver archbishops to not take communion because of their statements and record regarding their belief in Catholicism, particularly on abortion and on when life actually begins.


Archbishop of Washington Chides Pelosi; Dencer Archbishop Warns Biden to Skip Communion
Fox News
Tuesday, August 26, 2008

By Bill Sammon

Irked by pro-choice Democrats who tout their Catholicism, the archbishop of Washington is chiding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for misstating church history and the archbishop of Denver is warning vice presidential hopeful Joe Biden not to take Communion.

The unusual public rebukes come as both Pelosi and Biden are talking up their faith in a bid for swing voters as Democrats stage their national convention in Denver. In an interview Sunday, Pelosi claimed to be an expert on the church’s abortion stance.

“As an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time,” Pelosi told NBC’s Tom Brokaw, who had asked her when life begins. “And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know.”

When Brokaw pointed out that the Catholic church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception, Pelosi said: “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy.”

In an interview with FOX News on Tuesday, Archbishop Donald Wuerl said people need to reflect more before they start talking about church doctrine. He also issued a statement calling Pelosi’s explanation of the church’s abortion stance “incorrect.”

“The current teaching of the Catholic Church on human life and abortion is the same teaching as it was 2,000 years ago,” Wuerl noted. “From the beginning, the Catholic Church has respected the dignity of all human life from the moment of conception to natural death.”

Wuerl cited a passage from the church’s catechism that condemns abortion as “gravely contrary to moral law.”

“Since the first century the church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion,” the catechism states. “This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”

In an afternoon response, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said that as mother of five, the speaker appreciates the “sanctity of family.”

“While Catholic teaching is clear that life begins at conception, many Catholics do not ascribe to that view. The speaker agrees with the Church that we should reduce the number of abortions. She believes that can be done by making family planning more available, as well as by increasing the number of comprehensive age-appropriate sex education and caring adoption programs. The speaker has a long, proud record of working with the Catholic Church on many issues, including alleviating poverty and promoting social justice and peace,” said spokesman Brendan Daly.

Biden too has disagreed with the catechism, as evidenced by a 2006 interview he gave to C-SPAN, which asked him about abortion.

“That debate in our church has not morphed, but changed over a thousand years,” Biden said. “It always is viewed by the church as something that is wrong, but there’s been gradations of whether it was wrong. You know, from venial or mortal sin, as we Catholics say, and versions of it.”

But Biden added that since Pope Pius IX’s reign (1846-1878), “it’s been pretty clear that’s been automatic — moment of conception.”

Over the weekend, Biden’s pro-choice views raised the ire of Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput.

“I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for communion, if he supports a false ‘right’ to abortion,” Chaput told The Associated Press.

As for Pelosi, Chaput called her “a gifted public servant of strong convictions and many professional skills. Regrettably, knowledge of Catholic history and teaching does not seem to be one of them.”

Chaput added that abortion “is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it.”
During that 2004 presidential campaign, Chaput and a dozen other bishops called on Democratic nominee John Kerry to refrain from taking Communion. The church has also objected to former GOP presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani taking Communion.

“I think some of it is regional,” said Pelosi, whose district encompasses San Francisco, in a recent interview with C-SPAN. “It depends on the bishop of a certain region and, fortunately for me, Communion has not been withheld and I’m a regular Communicant, so that would be a severe blow to me if that were the case.”

On Saturday, when Obama introduced Biden as his running mate, both men made a point of mentioning Biden’s Catholicism. Obama has struggled to win over Catholics, 52 percent of whom voted for President Bush in 2004.

Bill Sammon is Washington Deputy Managing Editor for the FOX News Channel.

Pelosi Speaks on Behalf of the Catholic Church About When Life Begins

Nancy Pelosi now speaks on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church. She knows when life begins and it's not when a large percentage of Americans believe. She does not believe that a life begins at inception. And she spoke as if she was a Vatican spokesperson on NBC's Meet the Press.

Will the Vatican speak up on this? And, since when does she want to act Catholic? It sure isn't in her voting. By the way, the Catholic Church believes that life begins at inception.

Pelosi on "Meet the Press"
Nancy Pelosi: Must be Excommunicated from from RCC

by mrdirt, 8/25/08 18:35 ET

(Link to story on website)

On the August 24 “Meet the Press” show on NBC-TV, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) was asked to comment on when life begins. Democrat Pelosi said “I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the Church have not been able to make that definition.”

Responding, moderator Tom Brokaw told her that the Catholic Church “feels very strongly” that life begins at conception. Pelosi said, “I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the Church, this is an issue of controversy.”

William Donahue of Catholics United for the Faith reponded in a statement “Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: ‘Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.’ It also says, ‘Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.’ Looks like Pelosi didn’t study the subject long enough. But not to worry: We are sending her a copy of Catholicism for Dummies today (the Catechism is like maybe a bit advanced).

“Whether Joe Biden is as ignorant of what his religion teaches remains to be seen. What is not in doubt is the enthusiasm which NARAL showed when he was selected to join the ticket. The radical pro-abortion group was delighted, as were the radical pro-abortion delegates to the Democratic convention: as reported in today’s New York Times, 64 percent of Americans reject abortion-on-demand, yet only 23 percent of the delegates do. It is only fitting, then, that NARAL’s president will speak today at the Convention and Planned Parenthood’s president will speak tomorrow.

“So there we have it: the man running for president on the Democratic ticket supports selective infanticide, his running mate is a pro-abortion Catholic, the delegates are wildly out of step with Americans on abortion and the Speaker of the House hasn’t a clue what her religion teaches on the subject.”

Sunday, August 24, 2008

Obama tries to appeal to Lutherans in Wisconsin

Sen. Barack Obama went to church today. And because he was in Eau Claire, Wisc, of course he wanted to appeal to the largest protestant denomination in the state. Obama went to First Lutheran Church (ELCA) and I have not heard if he took communion. Obama was a member of the liberal United Church of Christ which is in communal membership with the ELCA, but he did leave his church.

One thing for certain is that Obama doesn't follow Lutheran beliefs. Lutherans believe that the bread and wine are the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. The UCC does not believe that.

Below is an article about his visit to Eau Claire:

Obama attends church, barbecue in Wisconsin
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Sun Aug 24, 1:53 PM ET

EAU CLAIRE, Wis. - Barack Obama says this week's Democratic convention will help people realize he and his family share their values.

"You'll conclude, 'He's sort of like us,'" Obama told a group of supporters. "'He comes from a middle class background, went to school on scholarships ... he and his wife had to figure out child care and how to start a college fund for their kids.'"

The presidential hopeful kept a relatively low profile Sunday, attending services at a Lutheran church before visiting a barbecue at a local rod and gun park.

Polls show a tight race in Wisconsin between Obama and Republican rival John McCain.

Campaign aides said the Illinois senator spoke Thursday to former President Clinton and to Hillary Clinton on Friday morning.

*Obama practices humility preached to him

First Lutheran Church

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Many Religious Voters Favor Obama, Poll Finds

(from Yahoo! News via US News & World Report)

By Justin Ewers
2 hours, 24 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO--As John McCain and Barack Obama continue to fine-tune their platforms before this month's party conventions, a survey released this week has renewed debate in and out of the campaigns about the political leanings of a prominent--and often misunderstood--group of potential swing voters: Christians.

Ever since George W. Bush rode a wave of "values" votes into the White House in 2000 and 2004, political analysts have been mulling just how much restless evangelicals, in particular, with their strong views on hot-button cultural issues like abortion and gay marriage, seem to be reshaping the political landscape.

Exit polling conducted after Bush's win over John Kerry famously found "moral values" to be the top issue for many voters. Some 40 percent of American adults told pollsters they saw themselves as "evangelical." Pundits mused about the possibility of a permanent Republican majority.

The political times, however, could be changing. A study released this week by the Barna Group, a Christian research and consulting firm based in Ventura, Calif., finds that Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, currently enjoys the support of more faith-driven voters, including Christians, than his Republican rival.

The poll, which shows Obama ahead of McCain 43 percent to 34 percent among likely voters, also finds Obama leading in 18 of 19 different religious faith communities defined by the survey's strict standards. McCain leads in only one--evangelicals. In that category, however, the Republican has a huge lead, 61 to 17.

The Barna poll uses unusual methodology. Many pollsters take voters at their word when they say they are evangelical Christians, but the Barna survey is unusually specific about its categorizations. It asks voters a battery of nine questions about their religious beliefs--whether, for example, they think the Bible is accurate in everything it teaches, and whether they feel a personal responsibility to share their beliefs about Christ with non-Christians. Only when all nine questions are answered affirmatively are voters categorized as "evangelical."

This significantly reduces the survey's estimate of the total number of evangelical voters. By Barna's estimate, only 8 percent of U.S. voters are truly evangelical. "That is a much smaller group than you might think," says George Barna, the poll's director.

Not everybody agrees with his methodology, of course. Regardless, there is little doubt that evangelicals are still a highly motivated, well-organized voting bloc. Nearly 90 percent of evangelicals in the Barna study said they intend to vote in November.

The survey shows that the much debated "God gap" between Republicans and Democrats among Christian voters as a whole may not be nearly as dramatic as it appeared in 2004. Indeed, among those who self-identify as "evangelical" but who don't fit the Barna group's criteria, McCain holds only a 39 to 37 lead over Obama, with nearly 1 in 4 voters saying they are still undecided.

Among most other Christian groups, the Democratic candidate continues to enjoy a comfortable lead. Obama has a huge advantage among non-Christians, atheists, and agnostics, but he also leads among nonevangelical, born-again Christians (43 to 31), Christians who are neither born-again nor evangelical (44 to 28), Catholics (39 to 29), and Protestants (43 to 34). "If the current preferences stand pat," says Barna, "this would mark the first time in more than two decades that the born-again vote has swung toward the Democratic candidate."

Experts aren't sure exactly what is causing this shift. Obama has made a concerted effort to reach out to faith-oriented voters, including a splashy announcement this summer about expanding President Bush's faith-based initiative. He speaks more openly about his faith than many previous Democratic presidential candidates, and he has made an effort to find common ground with opponents of abortion.

Still, most experts believe that Christian voters' preferences, like those of many other voters, have less to do with the candidates' current positions than with a backlash against the Bush presidency. When asked to describe what makes the candidates stand out, at the top of the list for Christian voters currently supporting Obama is "being different from George Bush."

These numbers certainly aren't set in stone, and they are bound to change before November. The first harsh months of the campaign, including the controversy surrounding Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, have shaken some Christian voters' early confidence in him. During the past two months, Obama's lead has eroded substantially among nonevangelical, born-again Christians (down 9 percentage points), active Christians (a 20-point drop), Protestants (down 13 points), and Catholics (down 11 points).

When the pre-election advertising campaigns begin this fall--particularly those that emphasize Obama's support for abortion rights--those numbers may continue to drop. "There is a lot of anger toward the Bush administration," says Barna. "But faith-driven voters, in particular, are going back and re-examining their initial choice and trying to figure out if this is really someone whose values they can live with for another four to eight years."

Saturday, July 19, 2008

Pope Continues Apology World Tour

Roman Catholic Pope Benedict XVI is right where he left off when he was in the United States earlier in the year, this time he is in Australia.

Apparenly the priests "Down Under" have the same problems as the priests in "The Land of the Free." What is this? Sexual abuse by priests.

He apologized for the "shame that we have all felt as result of the sexual abuse of minors by some clergy" in Australia.

Australia, the United States and Canada have all felt these problems but haven't been acknowledged by the pope until he arrived on each continent. Instead in the past, the priest or bishop was moved from diocese to diocese and the Catholic church had to pay the victims a large sum of money. It is good that the pope is trying to mend the wounds left by unlawful priests and bishops.

The only thing I hope is that in the future the pope wouldn't have to apologize for problems that should have been dealt with instead of transferred.

This pope has been a good pope for the most part. He is willing to talk when others are afraid to talk, but he has said some things that have gotten him into trouble and we all remember them. But he is what the Catholic church needs at this moment. Not a softy.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008

On this day in 1530

The Augsburg Confession, the primary confession of faith of the Lutheran Church, was presented to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Augsburg.

Here is a little history:
The Augsburg Confession is, by its catholic nature (meaning "universal" in its application to Lutheran churches), normative to all Lutheran Churches everywhere and in all times. It is also one of the most important documents of the Lutheran reformation. The Augsburg Confession was written in both German and Latin, and was presented by a number of German rulers and free-cities at the Diet of Augsburg on June 25, 1530. The Holy Roman Emperor Charles V had called on the Princes and Free Territories in Germany to explain their religious convictions in an attempt to restore religious and political unity in the Holy Roman Empire, and rally support against the Turkish invasion. It is the fourth document contained in the Lutheran Book of Concord.

To Read the Augsburg Confession in full please click this link.

Monday, June 23, 2008

PEW Forum compares American faith

Source- PEW Forum

Evangelical Protestant Churches (Ex: LCMS, PCA, AME, Free Methodist, Baptist, etc)
Mainline Protestant Churches (Ex: ELCA, Episcopal, PCUSA, UMC, etc)

Christians don't know what they believe (Pew Forum)

Religious Americans: My faith isn't the only way

By ERIC GORSKI (Associated Press) – 1 hour ago

America remains a deeply religious nation, but a new survey finds most Americans don't believe their tradition is the only way to eternal life — even if the denomination's teachings say otherwise.

The findings, revealed Monday in a survey of 35,000 adults, can either be taken as a positive sign of growing religious tolerance, or disturbing evidence that Americans dismiss or don't know fundamental teachings of their own faiths.

Among the more startling numbers in the survey, conducted last year by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life: 57 percent of evangelical church attenders said they believe many religions can lead to eternal life, in conflict with traditional evangelical teaching.

In all, 70 percent of Americans with a religious affiliation shared that view, and 68 percent said there is more than one true way to interpret the teachings of their own religion.

"The survey shows religion in America is, indeed, 3,000 miles wide and only three inches deep," said D. Michael Lindsay, a Rice University sociologist of religion.

"There's a growing pluralistic impulse toward tolerance and that is having theological consequences," he said.

Earlier data from the Pew Forum's U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, released in February, highlighted how often Americans switch religious affiliation. The newly released material looks at religious belief and practice as well as the impact of religion on society, including how faith shapes political views.

The report argues that while relatively few people — 14 percent — cite religious beliefs as the main influence on their political thinking, religion still plays a powerful indirect role.

The study confirmed some well-known political dynamics, including stark divisions over abortion and gay marriage, with the more religiously committed taking conservative views on the issues.

But it also showed support across religious lines for greater governmental aid for the poor, even if it means more debt and stricter environmental laws and regulations.

By many measures, Americans are strongly religious: 92 percent believe in God, 74 percent believe in life after death and 63 percent say their respective scriptures are the word of God.

But deeper investigation found that more than one in four Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants and Orthodox Christians expressed some doubts about God's existence, as did six in ten Jews.

Another finding almost defies explanation: 21 percent of self-identified atheists said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8 percent "absolutely certain" of it.

"Look, this shows the limits of a survey approach to religion," said Peter Berger, a theology and sociology professor at Boston University. "What do people really mean when they say that many religions lead to eternal life? It might mean they don't believe their particular truth at all. Others might be saying, 'We believe a truth but respect other people, and they are not necessarily going to hell.'"

Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum, said that more research is planned to answer those kinds of questions, but that earlier, smaller surveys found similar results.

Nearly across the board, the majority of religious Americans believe many religions can lead to eternal life: mainline Protestants (83 percent), members of historic black Protestant churches (59 percent), Roman Catholics (79 percent), Jews (82 percent) and Muslims (56 percent).

By similar margins, people in those faith groups believe in multiple interpretations of their own traditions' teachings. Yet 44 percent of the religiously affiliated also said their religion should preserve its traditional beliefs and practices.

"What most people are saying is, 'Hey, we don't have a hammer-lock on God or salvation, and God's bigger than us and we should respect that and respect other people,'" said the Rev. Tom Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University.

"Some people are like butterflies that go from flower to flower, going from religion to religion — and frankly they don't get that deep into any of them," he said.

Beliefs about eternal life vary greatly, even within a religious tradition.

Some Christians hold strongly to Jesus' words as described in John 14:6: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Others emphasize the wideness of God's grace.

The Catholic church teaches that the "one church of Christ ... subsists in the Catholic Church" alone and that Protestant churches, while defective, can be "instruments of salvation."

Roger Oldham, a vice president with the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention, bristled at using the word "tolerance" in the analysis.

"If by tolerance we mean we're willing to engage or embrace a multitude of ways to salvation, that's no longer evangelical belief," he said. "The word 'evangelical' has been stretched so broadly, it's almost an elastic term."

Others welcomed the findings.

"It shows increased religious security. People are comfortable with other traditions even if they're different," said the Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance. "It indicates a level of humility about religion that would be of great benefit to everyone."

More than most groups, Catholics break with their church, and not just on issues like abortion and homosexuality. Only six in 10 Catholics described God as "a person with whom people can have a relationship" — which the church teaches — while three in 10 described God as an "impersonal force."

"The statistics show, more than anything else, that many who describe themselves as Catholics do not know or understand the teachings of their church," said Denver Roman Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput. "Being Catholic means believing what the Catholic church teaches. It is a communion of faith, not simply of ancestry and family tradition. It also means that the church ought to work harder at evangelizing its own members."
On the Net:

* Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life:

How do Denominations view gay marriage?

Pew Forum surveys denominations' views on gay marriage
Study finds a wide range of attitudes on same-sex unions from tolerance and support to strong opposition.
By Steve Padilla, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 21, 2008
So what do the country's leading religious denominations have to say about gay marriage?

The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life compiled a report on the question last year and updated it in May, the same month the California Supreme Court cleared the way for gay weddings, which began this week.

Although attitudes toward same-sex marriage will vary among individuals, the Pew Forum assessed the positions of various denominations and religious groups.

The following, which includes just some of the entities the Pew Forum surveyed, is based on the forum’s research with additional Times reporting.

American Baptist

In 1982, the American Baptist Churches in the USA's governing body, the General Board, declared that "homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching."

Some individual churches, however, have welcomed openly gay members. American Baptist churches in California, Hawaii, Nevada and Arizona broke away from the national church in 2006, saying the General Board failed to penalize churches that had welcomed gays.


Although some Buddhists call for tolerance, there is no official Buddhist position on same-sex marriage.


The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops opposes gay marriage, saying that "marriage is a faithful, exclusive and lifelong union between one man and one woman." The bishops also have condemned violence and bigotry against gays and lesbians and said that they "must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity."


The Episcopal Church has not explicitly endorsed gay marriage, but in 2006 the church stated its "support of gay and lesbian persons and [opposition to] any state or federal constitutional amendment that prohibits same-sex marriages or unions."

Some Episcopal congregations have split from the national church over gay issues and interpretations of Scripture.

At least one Episcopal congregation in California, All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, has already hosted same-sex weddings.

Evangelical Lutheran

The legislative body of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is expected to consider gay marriage and the ordination of openly gay ministers in 2009. A church task force in March recommended that the church continue to define marriage as a union between a woman and a man.


Although cultural attitudes may vary regarding gays and lesbians, there is no official Hindu position on same-sex marriage.


Homosexuality is considered a violation of Islamic law. The Islamic Shura Council, an umbrella organization for mosques and Muslim groups in Southern California, denounced the ruling allowing gay marriage, but the group also condemned "all forms" of discrimination.


The Reform and Reconstructionist movements support gay and lesbian rights, including same-sex weddings.

The Conservative movement does not sanctify gay marriage but does grant rabbis the autonomy to choose whether to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies. Leaders in Orthodox Judaism have defined marriage as a union between man and woman.

Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod

In 2006, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod reaffirmed its position that same-sex marriage is "contrary to the will of the Creator."


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints holds that "marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God."


The General Assembly, the governing body of the Presbyterian Church (USA), has not explicitly addressed the issue, but in 1997 it prohibited the ordination of gays.

Issues concerning homosexuality and the church are expected to arise next week, when the General Assembly holds its biennial meeting in San Jose.

Southern Baptist

In 2003, the Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement opposing gay marriage. It also called on "Southern Baptists not only to stand against same-sex unions but to demonstrate our love for those practicing homosexuality by sharing with them the forgiving and transforming power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)."

Unitarian Universalist

In 1996, the Unitarian Universalist Assn. of Congregations passed a resolution supporting same-sex marriage.

United Church of Christ

In 2005, the General Synod of the United Church of Christ voted to recognize and advocate for same-sex marriage.

United Methodist Church

In 2004, the church's top policymaking body reaffirmed that marriage is between a man and a woman.

source: LA Times

Thursday, June 19, 2008

What a surprise...

So far nothing has been done by the ELCA headquarters in Chicago about gay weddings being performed at ELCA churches in California. Surprised? Not me.

On Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Bill asked his guests on Tuesday on why most of America is against gay marriage. The lady guest said that this country follows Christian ideals. The man said that the country always gives way for change, it may take time, but change eventually happens, as was the case in California.

I thought Lutherans didn't like change? Apparently not. Well, the "Lutherans" in California do.

Tuesday, June 17, 2008

California "Lutheran" churches begin gay marriage

This is how a "Lutheran" gay marriage ceremony may go:

[P] In the name of the Father (or Mother) and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
[C] Amen.

[P] Dearly beloved, we are gathered here in the sight of God and before this church to witness the union of this man and this man (or, woman and this woman) in holy matrimony. This is an honorable instituted and blessed by God in Paradise, before humanities fall into sin.

In marriage we see a picture of the communion between Christ and His bride (or bridegroom), the church. Our Lord (or Lordess) blessed and honored marriage with His presence and first miracle at Cana in Galilee. This estate is also commended to us by the apostle Paul as sinful and unclean, but we'll do it anyway. Therefore, marriage is not to be entered into inadvisedly or lightly, but reverently, deliberately, and in accordance with the purposes for which it was instituted by God, but we don't care about this, we'll do it anyway.

The union of a husband and a husband (or, wife and a wife) in heart, body and mind is intended by God for the mutual companionship, help and support that each person ought to receive from the other, both in prosperity and adversity. Marriage was ordained so that man and man (or, woman and woman) may find delight in one another. Therefore, all persons who marry shall take a spouse in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust, for God has not called us to impurity but in holiness, but we'll do it anyway. God also established marriage for the procreation of children who are to be brought up in the fear and instruction of the Lord so that they may offer Him their praise, but it's ok, you can adopt instead.

For these reasons God has established the holy estate that _(name)_ and _(name)_ wish to enter. They desire our prayers as they begin their marriage in the Lord's name and with His (or, Her) blessing.

[P] _(name of bridegroom or bride)_, will you have this woman (or, man) to be your wedded wife (or husband), to live together in the holy estate of matrimony as God ordained it? Will you nourish and cherish her (or, him) as Christ loved His body, the Church, giving Himself up for her? Will you love, honor, and keep her (or, him) and in health and, forsaking all others, remain united with her (or, him) alone, so long as you both shall live? Then say: I will.

YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING? THIS IS TRUE NOW! WHAT CAN BE DONE? Every homosexual who is to be "married" will spend the rest of their life in sin as well as the pastor who marries them. For it is he (or her, in the case of the ELCA) who says it is to be fit for the two to marry. I would even say the hierarchy of the ELCA as well as in sin for allowing this to happen by turning their backs on this situation.

How can the ELCA allow so may people to not have the chance to go to Heaven? Where is Bishop Hanson? Hanson doesn't care, all he cares about is power, by power, it is numbers. All he wants is for the ELCA to be larger than the LCMS and to be the "Lutheran pope" by being the man in charge of the Lutheran World Federation. That is all he cares about, he can care less about what being a Lutheran really is. He, and the rest of the ELCA hierarchy, has forgotten about the Book of Concord and what the Holy Bible says. He and the hierarchy is more worried about interpreting the Bible for what it is not, than for what it Truly is.

This is the TRUTH.

Here is a list of "Lutheran" church to allow gay marriage:

Trinity Lutheran Church, 1323 Central Ave, Alameda, CA 94501

Christ the Shepherd Evangelical Lutheran Church, 185 W Altadena Dr, Altadena, CA 91001-4750

Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church, 401 Grizzly Peak Blvd, Berkeley, CA 94708-1210

University Lutheran Chapel, 2425 College Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704-2427

Peace Lutheran Church, 3201 Camino Tassajara, Danville, CA 94506-4643

Christ Lutheran Church, 780 Ashbury Ave, El Cerrito, CA 94530-3298

St Matthew's Lutheran Church, 1920 W Glenoaks Blvd, Glendale, CA 91201

Resurrection Lutheran Church, 1900 E Carson St, Long Beach, CA 90807-3038

Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church, 759 Linden Ave, Long Beach, CA 90813-4501

Bethel Lutheran Church, 5750 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036-4710

Hollywood Lutheran Church, 1733 N New Hampshire Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027-4207

Hope Lutheran Church, 6720 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90038-3441

Lutheran Church of the Master, 10931 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025-4537

Epiphany Lutheran and Episcopal Church, 425 Carmel Ave, Marina, CA 93933

Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church, 35660 Cedar Blvd, Newark, CA 94560-1323

St Matthew Lutheran Church, 11031 Camarillo St, North Hollywood, CA 91602-1210

First Lutheran Church, 4100 Mountain Blvd, Oakland, CA 94619-3099

St Paul Lutheran Church, 1658 Excelsior Ave, Oakland, CA 94602-1698

First Evangelical Lutheran Church, 600 Homer Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94301-2827

University Lutheran Church, Stanford University, 1611 Stanford Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1255

Grace Lutheran Church, 2369 Barrett Ave, Richmond, CA 94804-1698

Lutheran Church of Our Redeemer, 4641 Marconi Ave, Sacramento, CA 95821-4390

Central City Lutheran Mission, 1345 N G St, San Bernardino, CA 92405-5012

Peace Lutheran Church, 850 Glenview Dr, San Bruno, CA 94066-2722

First Lutheran Church, 1420 3rd Ave, San Diego, CA 92101-3193

Christ Church Lutheran, 1090 Quintara St, San Francisco, CA 94116-1268

Ebenezer Lutheran Church, 678 Portola Dr, San Francisco, CA 94127-1208

First United Lutheran Church, 6555 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121-1716

Golden Gate Lutheran Church, 601 Dolores St, San Francisco, CA 94110-1526

St Francis Lutheran Church, 152 Church St, San Francisco, CA 94114-1111

St Mark's Lutheran Church, 1111 O'Farrell St, San Francisco, CA 94109-6601

St Paulus Lutheran Church, 930 Gough St, San Francisco, CA 94102-3193

Christ the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, 1550 Meridian Ave, San Jose, CA 95125-5319

Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church, 1948 The Alameda, San Jose, CA 95126-1427

Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church, 1710 Moorpark Ave, San Jose, CA 95128

New Creation Church, 7275 Santa Teresa Blvd, San Jose, CA 95119

The Church of All Saints, 362 Mulberry Dr, Ste 3, San Marcos, CA 92069-1949

St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, 958 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403-2807

Thanksgiving Lutheran Church, 1225 Fulton Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95401

St John's Lutheran Church, 581 E Fremont Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94087-2743

Faith Lutheran Church, 12449 California St, Yucaipa, CA 92399-4405

In other news, First United Lutheran Church of San Francisco has merged with First Unitarian Universalist Chapel. That must be a great combination. How much more liberal in theology can you get? They might as well worship many gods.

The peace of the Lord be with you always.
Go in peace.

ELCA Bishop Hanson meets with Obama


June 12, 2008

ELCA Presiding Bishop, Other Religious Leaders, Meet with Obama
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[Click for larger image] The Rev. Mark S. Hanson, presiding bishop of the ELCA

CHICAGO (ELCA) -- The Rev. Mark S. Hanson, presiding bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) was among more than 30 national Christian leaders who met here June 10 with U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the presumptive Democratic nominee for president. Hanson was invited by Obama's staff to meet privately with the Senator in a meeting in which Darfur, the Iraq war, gay rights, abortion and faith issues were discussed, the Associated Press reported.
Hanson said the meeting's purpose seemed to be an effort by Obama "to begin a process of being engaged with a diverse group of religious leaders." Attendees included leaders of Evangelical, Protestant and Roman Catholic churches and organizations, he said.
Among other things, Hanson said he explained to Obama that Lutherans "are on the ground" throughout the world, providing ministries that include disaster relief, response to HIV and AIDS and other diseases, alleviation of poverty and community development. Churches and other non-governmental agencies need a strong U.S. government partner to provide effective global healing ministries, Hanson said he told Obama.
Hanson also told Obama that next week he will visit churches and church leaders in Kenya and Tanzania. In Tanzania Hanson will chair a regular meeting of the Lutheran World Federation Council (LWF), in his role as LWF president. Obama has family roots in that region of Africa.
"Reaching out to the faith community is a priority for Barack Obama and will be a priority under an Obama administration," Obama spokesperson Jen Psaki told reporters. Psaki added that Obama is expected to meet again with religious leaders in the coming months.
Hanson said he hopes to get similar invitations from the presumed Republican presidential nominee, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), and other presidential nominees.

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Monday, June 16, 2008

Gays in California cheer!

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuals go to hell. I am not being mean. This is what the Holy Bible says. You know, that book that all Christians need to read to know what being a Christian is. Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon, the protestants that began what was to be known as the Lutheran church also said homosexuals will go to hell. It is in the Book of Concord that all Lutherans should read because it defines the faith.

Here is a print screen of Ebenezer/herchurch "Lutheran" in San Francisco:

Jesus, Paul and Luther would be proud

Today is the day. Today is the day that gays and lesbians have been "praying" for. Today in California, gays and lesbians can now be "married."

What does the Bible say about this? What does Jesus say? What does Paul say? What does Luther say? They say all the same thing: this is sin.

Jesus, Paul and Martin Luther all say homosexuals will go to hell. If you don't believe me, read the Bible and read the Book of Concord.

Ebenezer (HerChurch) Lutheran Church- San Francisco, Calif. (website)
It is obvious on what type of "Lutheran" this church is. (Hint: not LCMS, not WELS....what's left, it's the "big one") This "Lutheran" "church" will allow gay marriage. What is even better is that this church does not read the Lord's Prayer, it says this instead--
Our Mother who is within us
we celebrate your many names.
Your wisdom come.
Your will be done,
unfolding from the depths within us.
Each day you give us all that we need.
You remind us of our limits
and we let go.
You support us in our power
and we act with courage.
For you are the dwelling place within us
the empowerment around us
and the celebration among us
now and for ever. Amen

My gosh.

Here is what is posted on the "church"'s website--

celebrating the CA Supreme Court

decision we are offering YOU

sacred space/clergy for your

wedding/marriage call


Here is Paul's letter to the Romans about sinful humanity:

Romans 1:18-32 (New International Version)

New International Version (NIV)

Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

God's Wrath Against Mankind
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Saturday, May 24, 2008

California State Supreme Court

Ellen is getting married! What a happy day that will be! Wait. To a woman?

This is no "civil union" this is marriage, as in "between a man and a woman." But, this time it is between two of the same sex. And, this is all legal.

So, "what does this mean" in the words of Martin Luther.

It mean that in all churches that allow gays to marry will no longer be Christian. Christians must follow the Holy Bible. The Bible is what unites all Christians. Without it, being a Christian means nothing.

What about Ebenezer Lutheran Church in San Francisco? You know, HerChurch. I said it, HerChurch. Now unofficially called HerChurch Lutheran, Ebenezer is a feminist "Lutheran" church. They pray to the Holy "Mother", have lesbian pastors and all of that jazz. This is "Lutheran," right? Yes and No. Yes, in that it is a church within the ELCA and No in that it follows the Holy Bible and the Book of Concord. For all of you who don't know what the Book of Concord is, it is the beliefs of the Lutheran Church (ie: Luther's Small Catechism, Large Catechism, Augsburg Confession, etc.).

What will the ELCA do about HerChurch? Nothing. Just like they have done about everything else.

We shall see what the future brings.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Lutherans and football

What are the most popular NFL teams for Lutherans? Going by the odds, it can be easy to tell. First off, where are the Lutherans? Well, they are spread throughout the country. But where are the "hotbeds"?

Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Missouri are the hot spots if you want to find Lutherans in large numbers.

Hey, after all, when you go to Wisconsin (some call it the "homeland" for Lutherans) there are Lutheran churches everywhere. When you go to Indiana, you have to look behind all the Methodist, Baptist and Nazarene churches.

Back to the story, the National Football League. What teams do most Lutherans follow?

Here are the logical answers:
1. Green Bay Packers
2. Minnesota Vikings
3. Chicago Bears
4. St. Louis Rams
5. Kansas City Chiefs
6. Detroit Lions
7. Philadelphia Eagles
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. Indianapolis Colts
10. Dallas Cowboys

In case you were wondering, here are the states with the most Lutherans:
1. Wisconsin (most ELCA, LCMS, WELS churches)
2. Minnesota
3. Iowa
4. Nebraska
5. North Dakota
6. South Dakota
7. Pennsylvania
8. Michigan
9. Montana
10. Washington