Tuesday, June 17, 2008

California "Lutheran" churches begin gay marriage

This is how a "Lutheran" gay marriage ceremony may go:

[P] In the name of the Father (or Mother) and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
[C] Amen.

[P] Dearly beloved, we are gathered here in the sight of God and before this church to witness the union of this man and this man (or, woman and this woman) in holy matrimony. This is an honorable instituted and blessed by God in Paradise, before humanities fall into sin.

In marriage we see a picture of the communion between Christ and His bride (or bridegroom), the church. Our Lord (or Lordess) blessed and honored marriage with His presence and first miracle at Cana in Galilee. This estate is also commended to us by the apostle Paul as sinful and unclean, but we'll do it anyway. Therefore, marriage is not to be entered into inadvisedly or lightly, but reverently, deliberately, and in accordance with the purposes for which it was instituted by God, but we don't care about this, we'll do it anyway.

The union of a husband and a husband (or, wife and a wife) in heart, body and mind is intended by God for the mutual companionship, help and support that each person ought to receive from the other, both in prosperity and adversity. Marriage was ordained so that man and man (or, woman and woman) may find delight in one another. Therefore, all persons who marry shall take a spouse in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust, for God has not called us to impurity but in holiness, but we'll do it anyway. God also established marriage for the procreation of children who are to be brought up in the fear and instruction of the Lord so that they may offer Him their praise, but it's ok, you can adopt instead.

For these reasons God has established the holy estate that _(name)_ and _(name)_ wish to enter. They desire our prayers as they begin their marriage in the Lord's name and with His (or, Her) blessing.

[P] _(name of bridegroom or bride)_, will you have this woman (or, man) to be your wedded wife (or husband), to live together in the holy estate of matrimony as God ordained it? Will you nourish and cherish her (or, him) as Christ loved His body, the Church, giving Himself up for her? Will you love, honor, and keep her (or, him) and in health and, forsaking all others, remain united with her (or, him) alone, so long as you both shall live? Then say: I will.

YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING? THIS IS TRUE NOW! WHAT CAN BE DONE? Every homosexual who is to be "married" will spend the rest of their life in sin as well as the pastor who marries them. For it is he (or her, in the case of the ELCA) who says it is to be fit for the two to marry. I would even say the hierarchy of the ELCA as well as in sin for allowing this to happen by turning their backs on this situation.

How can the ELCA allow so may people to not have the chance to go to Heaven? Where is Bishop Hanson? Hanson doesn't care, all he cares about is power, by power, it is numbers. All he wants is for the ELCA to be larger than the LCMS and to be the "Lutheran pope" by being the man in charge of the Lutheran World Federation. That is all he cares about, he can care less about what being a Lutheran really is. He, and the rest of the ELCA hierarchy, has forgotten about the Book of Concord and what the Holy Bible says. He and the hierarchy is more worried about interpreting the Bible for what it is not, than for what it Truly is.

This is the TRUTH.

Here is a list of "Lutheran" church to allow gay marriage:

Trinity Lutheran Church, 1323 Central Ave, Alameda, CA 94501

Christ the Shepherd Evangelical Lutheran Church, 185 W Altadena Dr, Altadena, CA 91001-4750

Shepherd of the Hills Lutheran Church, 401 Grizzly Peak Blvd, Berkeley, CA 94708-1210

University Lutheran Chapel, 2425 College Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704-2427

Peace Lutheran Church, 3201 Camino Tassajara, Danville, CA 94506-4643

Christ Lutheran Church, 780 Ashbury Ave, El Cerrito, CA 94530-3298

St Matthew's Lutheran Church, 1920 W Glenoaks Blvd, Glendale, CA 91201

Resurrection Lutheran Church, 1900 E Carson St, Long Beach, CA 90807-3038

Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church, 759 Linden Ave, Long Beach, CA 90813-4501

Bethel Lutheran Church, 5750 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036-4710

Hollywood Lutheran Church, 1733 N New Hampshire Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027-4207

Hope Lutheran Church, 6720 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90038-3441

Lutheran Church of the Master, 10931 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90025-4537

Epiphany Lutheran and Episcopal Church, 425 Carmel Ave, Marina, CA 93933

Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church, 35660 Cedar Blvd, Newark, CA 94560-1323

St Matthew Lutheran Church, 11031 Camarillo St, North Hollywood, CA 91602-1210

First Lutheran Church, 4100 Mountain Blvd, Oakland, CA 94619-3099

St Paul Lutheran Church, 1658 Excelsior Ave, Oakland, CA 94602-1698

First Evangelical Lutheran Church, 600 Homer Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94301-2827

University Lutheran Church, Stanford University, 1611 Stanford Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1255

Grace Lutheran Church, 2369 Barrett Ave, Richmond, CA 94804-1698

Lutheran Church of Our Redeemer, 4641 Marconi Ave, Sacramento, CA 95821-4390

Central City Lutheran Mission, 1345 N G St, San Bernardino, CA 92405-5012

Peace Lutheran Church, 850 Glenview Dr, San Bruno, CA 94066-2722

First Lutheran Church, 1420 3rd Ave, San Diego, CA 92101-3193

Christ Church Lutheran, 1090 Quintara St, San Francisco, CA 94116-1268

Ebenezer Lutheran Church, 678 Portola Dr, San Francisco, CA 94127-1208

First United Lutheran Church, 6555 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121-1716

Golden Gate Lutheran Church, 601 Dolores St, San Francisco, CA 94110-1526

St Francis Lutheran Church, 152 Church St, San Francisco, CA 94114-1111

St Mark's Lutheran Church, 1111 O'Farrell St, San Francisco, CA 94109-6601

St Paulus Lutheran Church, 930 Gough St, San Francisco, CA 94102-3193

Christ the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, 1550 Meridian Ave, San Jose, CA 95125-5319

Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church, 1948 The Alameda, San Jose, CA 95126-1427

Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church, 1710 Moorpark Ave, San Jose, CA 95128

New Creation Church, 7275 Santa Teresa Blvd, San Jose, CA 95119

The Church of All Saints, 362 Mulberry Dr, Ste 3, San Marcos, CA 92069-1949

St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, 958 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403-2807

Thanksgiving Lutheran Church, 1225 Fulton Rd, Santa Rosa, CA 95401

St John's Lutheran Church, 581 E Fremont Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94087-2743

Faith Lutheran Church, 12449 California St, Yucaipa, CA 92399-4405

In other news, First United Lutheran Church of San Francisco has merged with First Unitarian Universalist Chapel. That must be a great combination. How much more liberal in theology can you get? They might as well worship many gods.

The peace of the Lord be with you always.
Go in peace.

1 comment:

luckeyfrog said...

I don't understand how you can say in this post (and some others) that anyone who is gay will go to hell, but in one of your other posts you say "If you believe in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are saved and you will go to Heaven."

Regardless of whether you believe it is 'right' to be a homosexual, these contradict, in my mind. Maybe homosexuality is a sin- but Jesus died for our sins. Maybe these people willingly succumb to the temptation to sin in this way- but don't many people sin in the same ways over and over throughout their lives?

The ELCA is in the middle of determining their stance on gay marriage. Personally, I applaud them for taking the time to study the Bible and be certain. There are many translations of the Bible that say many different things about homosexuality- some say it is wrong, and you are automatically condemned. Some say it is wrong, but no worse than other sins, which are forgiven. Some don't seem to really say anything for certain about homosexuality (some seem to actually comment more on promiscuity). I think taking the time to intelligently consider, rather than jumping to a conclusion, is an extremely smart thing for the ELCA to do.

I think being a Lutheran- or a Christian- can mean different things to different people. And I think that's a GOOD thing. For instance, you seem to think that a Lutheran must believe the Bible word-for-word, but I don't believe that at all (and I'm not the only one- see the survey you posted). I could go more into details, but I'll just leave it at this- you can disagree with Hanson and his decisions, but I don't think you have any right to say someone is less Lutheran or Christian because they believe something differently than you.